Wow! So much great info packed into today's radio show! We learn about what may be lurking in your attic with Stan Audette from AAD Inspection and we talk with Taggart Wright from NRG Flooring about finding the right flooring for your home. Plus, Heather Echevarria is here to get us up to speed on the Spring Parade of Homes.


Segment 1


Dave Burnett:                    This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz with your host Thom Dallman of Core Group Realty. Call today, 208-933-7777. Or go to CoreGroupRealty.com. It's the Idaho Real Estate Buzz.

                                                This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz, he is Thom Dallman, the co-owner, designated broker for Core Group Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com, that's the website to go to. Or you can always call 208-933-7777. Thom, you know, for anyone who's never heard the program before-

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    We've talked about the fact that this is not a show just about buying and selling homes.

Thom Dallman:                  Nope. Nope, it's not. We can pretty much do that in our sleep. Nope, this is a radio show that we like to share information with people. Keep people well informed. We talk about all kinds of topics from current listings, current marketplace trends, we bring in some of our preferred vendors to talk about their stuff that they've got going on. Helpful hints and helpful tips around the house. Things that help you keep yourself safe, and your family safe. Things to think about as far as safety plans and stuff like that. So, a wide range of things.

Dave Burnett:                    It's a show not only about buying and selling homes, but it's a show about being a homeowner.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly.

Dave Burnett:                    And even if you're a renter, how to take care of that home.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly, exactly. We want to make sure that everybody's well-educated on what it's like to own a home, and when they're ready for it, or if you currently own a home. Yeah, just all those helpful hints and tips.

Dave Burnett:                    And one of the websites that is extremely interactive, very good for you, lot of blogs, a lot of things we talk about are there. The list of preferred vendors. And that would be CoreGroupRealty.com. And that is C-O-R, CoreGroupRealty.com.

Thom Dallman:                  Yep, core with a C. Stands for Client-Oriented Real Estate.

Dave Burnett:                    And really, no matter what you're doing, whether you're buying your first home or whether you're buying that mega mansion on the hill, it's the biggest investment you're probably ever going to make in your life, unless you buy a business.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it's the biggest investment that most Americans strive for in their families and their lives to own a piece of property and own their own house. And not have to pay rent and all that fun stuff. So, it's the American dream.

Dave Burnett:                    One of the things we like to do, and that is to list the new listings at Core Group Realty. The reason is, with the marketplace so tight, not that many listings, you need to get on these right away.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly, yeah. The inventory is really low right now. We have very few homes coming on the market. It has picked up a little bit because of the spring and people are kind of getting that spring fever and starting to get things moving again. So we're starting to see some action, but we're still at an all-time historic low of inventory. So, it's important that you are aware of what's out there. Make sure that you've got a good site that's keeping you updated on the most current listings and stuff, if you are in the market, because they go quick.

Dave Burnett:                    They do.

Thom Dallman:                  They go fast.

Dave Burnett:                    What do you got listed this week?

Thom Dallman:                  Okay, the first one, let's start with Meridian. It's 4571 West White Birch Drive. This is a six bedroom, two and a half bath, two story bedroom. 3256 square feet. This is over in the Mill Iron Subdivision. Right over there by 10 Mile and Cherry Lane.

Dave Burnett:                    So one of the newer subdivisions.

Thom Dallman:                  Yep, yep, it's a newer subdivision. So, this house was actually built in 2010. So, it's been really beautifully maintained, it's got spacious living space. With a custom mantle over the fireplace. Engineered wood flooring throughout the house. And just, yeah, it's a great house with lots of space for everybody to kind of find their own nook and corner.

Dave Burnett:                    Six bedrooms, that is a large home.

Thom Dallman:                  Six bedrooms, right? Six bedrooms. And a large bonus room, so yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah, nice. And again, where is this one located?

Thom Dallman:                  Once again, that's 4571 West White Birch Drive. Meridian, Idaho. And you can find these all listed on our featured listings page on the Core Group Realty website. So, if you're at your computer and kind of wondering which one I said, just go to our featured listings and you'll see them there, so.

Dave Burnett:                    You'll find that there.

Thom Dallman:                  And this one's listed at $325,000. Great price point for such a large house.

Dave Burnett:                    For six bedrooms, that really is.

Thom Dallman:                  Six bedroom, yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    That's nice.

Thom Dallman:                  So, definitely worth checking out.

Dave Burnett:                    And, a desirable neighborhood.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly.

Dave Burnett:                    It's a great location.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly.

Dave Burnett:                    What's number two on the list?

Thom Dallman:                  Let's talk about 1508 North Alcatraz Avenue. This one's in Kuna. This is a great three bedroom, two bath, two car garage. 1570 square feet, so, it is a single level with an upstairs bonus room. Built in 2001, it's got a pantry, RV parking. RV parking, so important right now. Everybody's looking for RV parking for their toys and stuff like that, so. It's got skylights, it's just a beautiful house. It's listed at 215 thousand. So, finding anything under $250,000 right now is tricky. And anywhere between Boise and Meridian and Kuna and Eagle and stuff. So, $215,000, great property for that 1570 square feet.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah. You know it's funny, we talk about RV parking. And I always point it out because I own an RV. But when you're paying anywhere from 60 to 125, 130 dollars a month to park your RV, that's money that could be going right into your house payment.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly. Seriously, so.

Dave Burnett:                    So it's a big deal.

Thom Dallman:                  Finding those homes that have RV parking are critical.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  That's why I'm happy the second one has RV parking that I'm going to talk about too.

Dave Burnett:                    Nice.

Thom Dallman:                  This one's a little bit further out. This one's actually in Weiser. This is 1200 Man Creek Road in Weiser. This is actually a four bedroom, three bath with a one car garage. 3556 square feet on two acres. So it's actually got some great land out there.

Dave Burnett:                    Nice.

Thom Dallman:                  This is a single level with below grade, so there's people out there that are actually looking for homes with basements. That's what the below grade means, so. And has great views. So, it's got fireplaces, geothermal heating. Chickens are allowed, I just want to say that. But it also has RV parking. A covered patio and deck, hardwood flooring, and then tile flooring in other rooms. So, just a great opportunity to own a nice, large home. 355 thousand, out in Weiser. If you like that country feel, if you like being out…

Dave Burnett:                    Away from the urban area.

Thom Dallman:                  Right. But still accessible. You can still jump on the freeway and get into Boise and sell all the concerts and all the other stuff that you want to see. But, yeah, it's a great little piece of heaven out there.

Dave Burnett:                    You know, it's funny, you talked about chickens. Sometime we should have in a backyard chicken expert.

Thom Dallman:                  Oh yeah, is there such a thing?

Dave Burnett:                    Yes there are, in fact I can name one. She's very well known, Gretchen Anderson.

Thom Dallman:                  Oh. Oh, okay.

Dave Burnett:                    Who used to be on TV here in town. Used to be involved in a lot of the ski resorts. She's written books on raising chickens in your backyard and then kind of an expert on where you can, where you can't. If you're in an urban area, how to do it without being a problem to your neighbors.

Thom Dallman:                  You know what? And now that you mention it, we did sell a house last summer with someone that had pretty much raised chickens and stuff like that. And, moved over to Horseshoe Bend from ... I think they were over in Middleton area. So they moved over to Horseshoe Bend, and they had a whole lot of chickens and stuff, so. Now that you mention it, I think we do have an expert that I can probably see if we can bring him in.

Dave Burnett:                    It would just be kind of fun to do because I have thought about it. I've toyed with it. Until my wife told me, "I'll kill you if you do that." I've toyed with the idea, but we are in that season where people are putting in backyard gardens, people are looking to do something like that. So it would be kind of interesting to have a guest on to talk about that.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah, yeah. I think it would be a very interesting topic.

Dave Burnett:                    It would be.

Thom Dallman:                  To see what's the benefits and what's the pitfalls of owning chickens in your backyard.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah, and there's some cities, they have no problem with it at all.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah, exactly.

Dave Burnett:                    I just don't know if my neighbors, raising chickens, how I'd feel if they had a rooster that liked to crow at sunrise.

Thom Dallman:                  Liked to crow, yeah. And the early morning hours, that's for sure.

Dave Burnett:                    Because they do do that.

Thom Dallman:                  Yes they do.

Dave Burnett:                    Again, if you have seemed to heard of something that you want to take a look at, some of these listings, you can find them at CoreGroupRealty.com. I want to take just a couple minutes, talk about the website itself. Because at CoreGroupRealty.com, you have listed on there all of Core's properties.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah, featured properties. But we also have the Home Search site.

Dave Burnett:                    Yep, which is the MLS.

Thom Dallman:                  The MLS, yes. And then-

Dave Burnett:                    Which is updated frequently.

Thom Dallman:                  It's updated every fifteen minutes. So you have the most current information when you go in there and look at properties. The nice thing about that site too is that you can save favorites. So if you see a house that you really like, you can save it as a favorite to come back and check it out later. Or share it with friends and stuff like that, so. It's a great website for searching for homes. And it's way more updated than a lot of those other websites out there. Zillow.com.

Dave Burnett:                    …of you.

Thom Dallman:                  Anyways, yeah. So, it's a great website if you're in the market to search. We do have a home valuation site on there too. If you're looking to just get kind of a general idea of what your home's value is right now. With home values being almost double what they were from 2010. A lot of people have a lot of equity in their homes. So, there's that home valuation part of it as well. To be able to go and see what your value is right now.

Dave Burnett:                    CoreGroupRealty.com, that is the website to go to. So, you have this. Now, when it comes to the listings, some are very basic, very traditional. They have the photograph, they have the information. Some are a little more detailed, they've got a lot more photos. And some are actually a 3D tour you can do.

Thom Dallman:                  We do. We haven't had any in a while with 3D tours, but every once in a while we get those nicer properties that we like to get the 3D tours on and really give people a good idea of what it looks like.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah, where you get to go into the house on your computer and look around.

Thom Dallman:                  Kind of, yeah, step around it.

Dave Burnett:                    All around. It always amazes me when you can do that.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Dave Burnett:                    So CoreGroupRealty.com, that is the website for you to go to. Whether you're looking at ... We had the three new listings this week. You can check those out and find out more details, more information on what's happening there. And of course, you could always call 208-933-7777. That is the phone number for Core Group Realty. Somebody will answer the phone. If you're looking for an agent to show you property, they'll get you connected up there. Or if you're just looking for general information, they can give you that as well.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah, they sure can. There's always someone standing by.

Dave Burnett:                    Give a call. 208-933-7777. We call this the Idaho Real Estate Buzz, as we talk about all things going on when it comes to real estate. And that's being brought to you by Core Group Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com. Find out why they say, "You get more with Core."




Segment 2


Dave Burnett:                    This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz. He is Thom Dallman, the co-owner designated broker of Core Group Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com is the website for you to go to. Give a call today. 208-933-7777. In fact, you can call right now and get hold of somebody to find out more information on what is happening with Core Group Realty.

Thom Dallman:                  Not only what's happening with us but what's happening with our vendors.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  We have our service providers list on there of the people that we've got relationships with and we utilize a lot in the industry so we have one of those guests here today.

Dave Burnett:                    He is one of the guys I love to hear from because whether you're buying a house, selling a house, or you're just living in a house, the information Stan Audette will give us really does come in very handy.

Thom Dallman:                  It does, yeah. He's so full of knowledge about home maintenance and taking care of your home. It's amazing to hear him talk about it and his passion for it.

Dave Burnett:                    I guarantee there's going to be something in his segment you'll find out that you did not know before because I always walk away just going, "I did not know that." Stan Audette is with AAD Inspections. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Stan Audette:                    Hi, guys. Great to be back.

Dave Burnett:                    We're going to do something now that some people are frightened to do. Stan Audette, we're going to crawl up into the attic today and find out what's up there. We were talking during the break, for those who are a little bit older, we remember the days where there was about as much insulation in the attic as there was rafters. Four to six inches was about all there was. That's not the way it is today.

Stan Audette:                    It isn't that way so much today because the cost of energies for heating and cooling is so much greater. So it takes more insulation, really, to offset the amount of money we'd be spending to heat or cool our house. So today, we're going to have, say, 16 to 20 inches of typical insulation in an attic whereas in the 50s, for instance, we were lucky to get one or two inches and that was fine economically. We always look at a seven year back against the capital cost of installing that and paying the additional mortgage fees as opposed to how much are you going to pay anyway in heating and cooling bills. So that's a balance. And since energy costs keep going up, we find new homes and specifications calling for greater and greater insulation.

                                                To me the significant issue that I would like your listeners to focus on is if you will poke you head up in an attic, the purpose of that insulation is actually to try to slow down the conductive heat transfer. So if you have hot air in the attic, and anybody who's ever stuck their head up in an attic know that any time of year, summer or winter, it's going to be relatively hotter up in there because the sun is always beating down on your roof and that really makes attic air hot. Guess what, guys. Don't worry about how hot the air is in the attic. That's what the insulation's for. It keeps that heat from conducting through into your house.

                                                Now in the 50s, we used to actually put powered exhaust fans in the attics to try to keep that air cooler. I'm going to tell you that what we found out lately is those exhaust fans actually inhibit the cross-flow ventilation that we'd like to have to keep our shingles in good shape. So I would say even though it seems like a no-brainer to put those up there, get rid of them. Just shingle over them. Rely on soffit venting and either ridge vents or the little button vents you see up on top of the house that are spaced every ten or twelve feet away.

Dave Burnett:                    Let me ask you this question because I don't think I have one up there. It doesn't work if it does. We're talking in the end of the roof-ends. I'm not even sure what they're called but the vents on either end of the gables? A gable vent?

Stan Audette:                    Yes. That's right.

Dave Burnett:                    So those aren't good to have to draw air in?

Stan Audette:                    They're not as good as having soffit vents. That's along the eaves, just under the eaves, and then vents above them up along the fall line, if you will. That stand straight up and down the roof because the air in an attic, summer or winter, is always a little bit warmer than outside air. That means, like a hot air balloon, it's going to be buoyant and it wants to go up. So if you let it go up and out through dispersed vents near the ridge, that's great. But in order for the air to go out, it has to come in some place. So if you would actually create parallel fingers of air flower by having dispersed soffit venting, also, then you're getting a more thorough cleansing effect of the air in your attic. When I say cleansing, it's important to keep moisture-laden air out of the attic. That is actually the bigger fear today. Not the heat in the air in the attic so much as the moisture in the attic because there are times, spring and fall, where a lot of moisture that's being put into your attic, just from living plants, breathing people, cooking vapors, moisture-laden air from bathrooms that gets vented up through the house. If that's got too much moisture in the attic, then it will condense on the colder surfaces at night. Then that allows mold to grow when the sun comes by and warms those surfaces later. I know we're always talking about mold but, first of all, put more insulation in the attic and if you'd really like to have the attic or the house feel cool in the evenings, you can actually put something up called a radiant barrier. Remember we talked that heat would transfer by conduction through the insulation. The insulation pretty much stops it but your insulation will not stop radiant heat transfer. So when that roof surface has absorbed a lot of heat from the sun's rays, it converts that heat to radiant heat with a longer wavelength where the wavelengths are longer than the insulation and it'll make you ceiling actually feel like a hot sky if you lift you face to it in the evening.

Dave Burnett:                    Radiant is like a stove works, correct? Am I right on that or wrong?

Stan Audette:                    Or like a campfire. Let's say if you were out in 40 degree air outside and you go, "Brr. That's pretty cold." But if you're outside next to a campfire, you find out, if it's a great big bonfire, you might have to stand 12 feet from it because you're really hot on one side.

                                                That's right. So you'd turn around like you're on a spit. You kind of circle so you get warm all around.

Dave Burnett:                    Now one of the things that people need to check for or they can call Stan Audette and have him check it as well, is that to make sure that your vents out of your bathrooms, out of your kitchen, that they're actually venting and not just laying on the insulation.

Stan Audette:                    That's really good. All you have to do is usually poke your head up into the attic and you can see whether those exhaust ducts from your various ventilation fans are actually making it all the way out through to the exterior. Because if they're dumping moisten-laden air into the attic, then that's more moisture your attic has to deal with and it's really starting to make it hard for the existing ventilation, the passive ventilation, to keep the attic dry enough.

Thom Dallman:                  We've seen it happen where homes just naturally settle and stuff like that. Somehow those things get disconnected through use and stuff like that. So it's not uncommon for those to get disconnected and homeowners not realize it for a while and have that moisture build up in there.

Stan Audette:                    Absolutely. Let's remember, too, we're talking about what the builder's realized. Because as we go through different areas of construction, before the early 70s, nobody even thought about ventilating that out. Because really their houses were built so loose, it didn't matter. Now that we're tightening the houses up, ventilation becomes a lot more important. So we went in the 70s from having just ribbed metal foil ducts to go up through and what we finally discovering is, when that air that has moisture in it is against the cold surface of a ribbed metal duct and it's trying to pass all the way through the attic, that cold air is going to cause the moisture to condense in the duct. Those droplets then go back down and you think you've got a roof leak. So what we're doing now is we're actually putting in insulated ducts to carry that moister-laden air through a cold attic.

Dave Burnett:                    And another vent to check, of course, would be your dryer vent.

Stan Audette:                    Oh absolutely, absolutely.

Dave Burnett:                    Cause that's really ... would you say probably your drier vent's passing more moisture through it than any other vent?

Stan Audette:                    Most of the time, that's actually true but you know some of us have teenage daughters that take one hour showers.

Dave Burnett:                    Wow. You've got That's something that you can do yourself. Just look up in your attic. Make sure those vents are all connected. But then what are the dangers ... let me talk about this a little bit. When it comes to attics and that's moving around in that attic. There is a danger you could fall through.

Stan Audette:                    Yes. Yes.

Thom Dallman:                  Step lightly. Step lightly.

Dave Burnett:                    Because when you start trying to wander through a foot, two feet of insulation, it's just finding those ceiling joists. That can be a trick.

Stan Audette:                    It is because you can't see them under the insulation. You're absolutely right. What we do as inspectors is we expect to see those bottom cords of the tresses, or the ceiling joists, to be spaced about every 24 inches. So if you just hold onto something while your foot feels the next one to make sure you're actually standing on top of that and not on top of, say, a recessed light fixture or a pipe or some wiring. You can kind of feel that with your feet. Just go straight down through the insulation, wiggle around till you know you're on the top of one of those joists, take that step. Usually you can use your hands to hold on to some other framing and then take another step.

Thom Dallman:                  I was going to ask, what are some of the things people should look for when they're up there as far as should they be watching for mold growth? What are some indications of mold and maybe rodents?

Stan Audette:                    Why don't you look at the color of the wood in the attic. If the underside of your sheathing and all your framing members don't look just like they came out of the lumber pile, they're probably going to start looking darker, maybe with mold spots on them and things. That's what you'd look for. Pay more attention to those surfaces that would represent the north face of your house. That's where it's going to tend to grow first. Then also look down close to the eaves. That might be a little bit harder to see but that's where mold would start to form first. When you're seeing mold, it's usually an indication that your attic is under ventilated.

Dave Burnett:                    Would you say, then, if somebody has their attic and they have it ventilated with the fac that runs and brings air in, probably to disconnect it is a wise thing to do?

Stan Audette:                    Only because that type of fan is hard to create the disbursement of the ventilation. It tends to concentrate at one place at the expense of other places that need that cleansing air flow. Again, if you have parallel fingers, if you will, paths of air flow from a soffit straight up towards the ridge from one gable to the other, for instance, you're going to be a lot better off than if you were actually trying to force it with the fan in one place because that actually undoes the ventilation you'd have someplace else. It took me a long time as an engineer to realize that was true. I actually had to have roofers with a lot of experience take me around neighborhoods and show more how that happens. So then the engineer was trying to explain to himself. That was me. I was trying to explain to myself why that would be because it doesn't seem to make sense. But that's pretty much verified.

Dave Burnett:                    Stan Audette is with AAD Inspections and you can find him. He's one of the service providers at Core Group Reality. We'll continue on the other side. This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz being brought to you by Core Group Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com. Find out why they say you get more with core.




Segment 3


Dave Burnett:                    This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz. He is Thom Dallman, the co-owner, designated broker of Core Group Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com. Give a call today. 208-933-7777. And at CoreGroupRealty.com one of the things you'll find is that service provider list.

Thom Dallman:                  Service provider list. All the people that we trust and have had great relationships with. And yeah, we want to share their information with everybody. We trust these people with our clients and we've given them as a recommendation to people and yeah, these are people that have worked really well in the past.

Dave Burnett:                    Taggart is in studio with us today.

Thom Dallman:                  Taggart.

Taggart Wright:                 Hello.

Thom Dallman:                  Welcome.

Dave Burnett:                    Taggart, who's with NRG Flooring, and we want to talk a little bit ... Boy, flooring is one of those things that can give a house a wow factor or it can be a big zero.

Thom Dallman:                  Or not so much. Yep.

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    And it's also something that can be a very expensive investment, but it's also something that it's difficult. 'Cause you can spend money and-

Taggart Wright:                 Oh yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    For example, let me give you this. Hardwood flooring looks so nice-

Taggart Wright:                 Mm-hmm (affirmative), yes it does.

Dave Burnett:                    It is so expensive, but water damage is it, scratching,

Thom Dallman:                  Scratches.

Dave Burnett:                    Ants

Thom Dallman:                  Scratches.

Dave Burnett:                    Cats.

Thom Dallman:                  Scratches.

Dave Burnett:                    Husbands. There's so much that can damage it but it is so nice, and it is something that you do-

Taggart Wright:                 Oh yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    For those who want hardwood flooring.

Taggart Wright:                 Oh yeah, absolutely. Hardwood has its place. It's a gorgeous product-

Dave Burnett:                    Yep.

Taggart Wright:                 High-end family of two. Yeah, yeah, absolutely something that you can have in your house and you can stand back and be like yes, I have solid hardwood floors in my house-

Dave Burnett:                    And they are gorgeous

Taggart Wright:                 Yes, and they are gorgeous, yes.

Thom Dallman:                  And they are gorgeous for a while.

Dave Burnett:                    But maybe for a more practical sense, let's say you have somebody that has kids, or maybe just a rough lifestyle.

Taggart Wright:                 Sure.

Dave Burnett:                    Maybe you have a Great Dane, those kinds of things. There are floorings that are gorgeous-

Taggart Wright:                 Yep.

Dave Burnett:                    That are durable.

Taggart Wright:                 Oh yeah, absolutely. In fact, funny that you say Great Dane because, actually the owner of NRG Flooring, Nick used to have solid hardwood floors in his house, and was refinishing them every couple of years. He has literally seven kids, and a Great Dane.

Dave Burnett:                    Oh my gosh.

Taggart Wright:                 So, when it came time for him to refinish his floors yet again, he decided that, that was enough and decided to put in a ... It's called an LVT or LVP-

Dave Burnett:                    What's that stand for?

Taggart Wright:                 It's a Luxury Vinyl Plank. And the product that I'm talking about is called Cortec. Has a lifetime warranty on it, and that's actually what he decided to do was rip out all of his hardwood floors, and put this product down. And now when his Great Dane comes sliding in from the back door-

Dave Burnett:                    Chasing the seven kids.

Taggart Wright:                 Exactly, does not have all of those scratches that his hardwood floor did have as well.

Dave Burnett:                    How important is that the backing that's on the back of a floor, because otherwise it could sound ... It's funny, you walk on one that's got the backing and it kind of have a give to it. It doesn't feel like you're walking on concrete.

Taggart Wright:                 Sure.

Dave Burnett:                    Plus the sound is different.

Taggart Wright:                 The sound is definitely different. If you do not have a good backing, you will hear the echo of that product. And so, a lot of the lower end laminate type of sound, click-clacking, very teeny teeny sound. With this product you do not get that, it's a very dense product. You have more of a hardwood sound. But of course, you're not ever gonna have the wood sound without the wood.

Dave Burnett:                    Exactly.

Taggart Wright:                 Definitely less.

Dave Burnett:                    But let's talk about appearance.

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    And the appearance, these come a long way from the-

Taggart Wright:                 Oh yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    Stick down square tiles that you used to put in your laundry room and have fun.

Taggart Wright:                 Absolutely, oh yeah, yeah. Absolutely. They have-

Thom Dallman:                  The still have those available by the way. I call them Lee press-on tiles for your-

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah, yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  Laundry.

Taggart Wright:                 But yeah, this company Cortec, they make several different looks for you. They have tile looks, they have wood looks. From not a whole lot of definition, to full on hand scraped looks, to really cool looking knots in it that you actually have texture too. So yeah, there's several different colors, and different options in this.

Dave Burnett:                    Would you say Taggart, that to a person looking at it not up close, but from a distance it looks like wood, or it looks like-

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    Tile, it looks like-

Taggart Wright:                 Absolutely. This product, it doesn't have a high gloss, it's actually more of a dull finish. So it's not like super shiny product like they used to for sure.

Dave Burnett:                    Let me ask you these questions because, when it comes to a vinyl, waterproof floor-

Taggart Wright:                 Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dave Burnett:                    That's a big deal if you're trying to put something in a bathroom or kitchen, or a laundry room.

Taggart Wright:                 Oh yeah, absolutely. And, we get this all the time, people would say that they want hardwood throughout their entire house. And then we actually start talking to them, they do want it in their laundry room and into their bathroom. And that's where hardwood kind of gets that bad rep, that bad name. Because, any time that they have an issue, it's because of water, and it's because it's in a water location.

                                                Even in the kitchen.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah.

Taggart Wright:                 You know you have water in there. So, yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    Let's say you have laminate floors.

Taggart Wright:                 Mm-hmm (affirmative), sure.

Dave Burnett:                    Wood-backed laminate floors.

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    You go on vacation, and your refrigerator water supply line breaks.

Taggart Wright:                 Yep.

Dave Burnett:                    What happens?

Taggart Wright:                 You will have to replace that floor, unless you have this luxury vinyl plank. Literally, I know I keep going back to stories about the owner. Came home one day with his cooler and actually had a hole punctured in the bottom, just those Styrofoam coolers. Came home, put it in the kitchen, and went to sleep that night, didn't think anything of it. He's gonna empty everything out the next morning. The next morning he comes out and there's literally a pool of water in his-

Thom Dallman:                  That poor guy has the worst luck.

Taggart Wright:                 I know, but seriously. But yeah, luckily he did have that product down, and was able to just wipe it up with several towels, and that was the end of it.

Dave Burnett:                    Awesome.

Taggart Wright:                 Didn't have any expansion, or anything like that. Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    Just cleaned up.

Taggart Wright:                 Exactly, yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah. I guess that's the thing is that a cooler, that much can ruin a floor, yeah?

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah, absolutely.

Thom Dallman:                  Correct me if I'm wrong again, it's kind of probably a little bit more expensive, but the longevity and the lifetime of it-

Taggart Wright:                 Oh yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  Really pays off in the end.

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  For however long it lasts.

Taggart Wright:                 Yes. Yes, yes.

Thom Dallman:                  Okay.

Taggart Wright:                 Absolutely, yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  So yeah. I just wanted to say that because people do kind of look at the value versus the longevity of those floors and stuff like that. So, it's important to remind people yeah, it might be a little bit more expensive, but the lifetime warranty too-

Taggart Wright:                 Absolutely.

Thom Dallman:                  You can't beat that.

Taggart Wright:                 Yes.

Dave Burnett:                    Taggart is with NRG Flooring. Okay, take me to through the process. Let's say I have carpeting-

Taggart Wright:                 Sure.

Dave Burnett:                    Some linoleum, and some different stuff-

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    In my home.

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah, absolutely.

Dave Burnett:                    And I want to get this put in. Take me through the process with NRG. What do you do and then, how do you do it?

Taggart Wright:                 Sure. So, our process is we go out there and we look at every single customer, every single house as an individual. You wanna go out there and you wanna know about their, are they planning on selling it in two years? Are they planning on staying there for their entire life. So that's something that we talk about with each customer. And, also where is this product going? Where are we going throughout? Are we going throughout the entire house, or are we just doing a living room?

                                                So again, it's a conversation that we have with the customer. But the actual process of it, we come out, we give you a free estimate. Everything is itemized on our estimates, so you see the removal of that carpet, the removal of the laminate, or any other product that you have in there. And then we also talk about transitions. Are you stepping down to this product 'cause then, the under laminate's gonna need to go and make everything fluidless.

Dave Burnett:                    I guess people don't understand sometimes that where their carpeting is, may be just a quarter inch lower than their kitchen floor.

Taggart Wright:                 But will make a difference for sure.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah.    

Taggart Wright:                 So again, that's something that we talk about and try and point out to the customer. After we talk about all of that, then of course, we send them the estimate, and we go from there. Whether Cortec is the right product for them, or if it's just two people and they do want the wow factor of hardwood. So, it just depends on each situation.

Dave Burnett:                    So, then at that point you come in, you tear out-

Taggart Wright:                 Come in-

Dave Burnett:                    If that's the case-

Taggart Wright:                 Yep, yep. We'll tear everything out, and remove baseboards, remove the carpet, remove any under laminate that we're needing to do. Then we install this product. Another cool thing about this Cortec product is, it doesn't have to acclimate. It doesn't expand or contract, so we're able to bring it in, in our truck and put it in your house the exact same day.

Dave Burnett:                    So it doesn't have to sit three, four days.

Taggart Wright:                 Exactly, yep, yep.

Dave Burnett:                    And about roughly, and I know every house is different, but about-

Taggart Wright:                 Sure.

Dave Burnett:                    How, is it a long process?

Taggart Wright:                 It's not very long. Unfortunately, the longest process of installing this product is actually the demo of it. Removing the old carpet, removing those baseboards, getting everything level, getting everything prepped for this product. That is honestly the longest that it takes. It takes a day or so for the demo, and then the install, it seems like it's almost half a day.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah.

Taggart Wright:                 You know?

Thom Dallman:                  You're giving me bad memories of when I was flipping homes and had to tear up the sub-floor 'cause of the vinyl in the kitchens. It has that sub-floor in it to keep it even-

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  With the carpet and stuff.

Taggart Wright:                 They do not make a tool for that.

Thom Dallman:                  No. No, they really don't.

Taggart Wright:                 Yeah. You have a crowbar and some sweat.

Thom Dallman:                  Literally.

Taggart Wright:                 Lots of-

Thom Dallman:                  Lots of sweat into that.

Dave Burnett:                    And that's where NRG comes in.

Thom Dallman:                  That just gave me shivers, yeah. I'll be more than happy to let you guys take care of that.

Dave Burnett:                    NRG will provide the labor on it.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly.

Dave Burnett:                    Taggart, thank you so much. And again, they are on the vendor list -

Taggart Wright:                 Yep, on the vendor list, and it's N-R-G. The letters N-R-G, not energy.

Thom Dallman:                  Correct. Yeah, so-

Taggart Wright:                 When you're looking for it, it's NRG Flooring. So yeah, make sure you get on there and check it out.

Dave Burnett:                    Check it out. CoreGroupRealty.com is the website. Give a call, 208-933-7777, find out why they say you get more with Core.




Segment 4


Dave Burnett:                    This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz. He is Thom Dallman, the co-owner, designated Broker of CORE Group Realty, CoreGroupRealty.com is the website. Give a call, 208-933-7777.

                                                And Thom, as we've mentioned, this show is not about just selling and buying homes.

Thom Dallman:                  Nope.

Dave Burnett:                    You like to do that.

Thom Dallman:                  We like to do that. We're here to help with that. But we like to share information: How to keep your house safe, things that are happening out in the marketplace, the trends and stuff like that.

Dave Burnett:                    And the showpiece elements involving homes in the valley is the Parade of Homes.

Thom Dallman:                  Absolutely love the spring Parade of Homes. We have Heather Echevarria here from Innovative Custom Homes. You're also the chairperson, if I'm not mistaken, on the board for the BCASWI, the Builder and Contractors Association of Southwestern Idaho. That's your job, right, getting this all organized?

Heather Echevarria:        That is. I am the chair for the 2018 spring Parade. I guess I wasn't there at the meeting to say no, so-

Thom Dallman:                  They put you in there.

Dave Burnett:                    For those without the video portion of today's show, you should see the furrowed brow-

Thom Dallman:                  Right?

Dave Burnett:                    ... on Heather.

                                                There's a lot of pressure that does come with this, trying to just coordinate and organize all this, because builders are busy right now. I'll say this: In some ways, to take the time out to build a home for the Parade of Homes, there is an inconvenience factor in that you want to get homes built and done, and this is something to really showcase a home.

Heather Echevarria:        It is. And the Spring Parade is a very special show. It's 40 homes; we're limited to 40 homes. So we'll have 40 unique homes, original floor plans. There's some strict guidelines with it, and if I didn't have a Parade house that I'm building myself for the Parade and I was just being the chair, it would probably be a lot easier.

                                                But there's always the Parade madness in getting everything done. If something can go wrong, it will go wrong when you're building a Parade home.

Thom Dallman:                  Of course.

Heather Echevarria:        Because you're trying to do something new and unique and cool. And I'm always going to other markets, trying to bring something back and do something that you're not seeing here, and so there's challenges with that.

Dave Burnett:                    Isn't that a requirement, that there needs to be something new and unique?

Heather Echevarria:        Yes. In the Spring Parade there is, yep.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah.

Dave Burnett:                    So as a builder, you sit back and go, "Okay, we're going to do something new and unique." How do you begin that whole process?

Thom Dallman:                  Well, I think that's one of the great things about Heather is that she does actually go to other ... she goes to Parade of Homes down in Utah and other states and stuff like that, so she can see what other people are doing, what trends are happening in other marketplaces. And yeah, like she said, brings them back here.

Heather Echevarria:        I bring stuff back here. I go to Parades, not like the typical person that's wandering through and looking at everything. I'm on a mission. So I'll go see 40 Parade homes in two and a half days because I'm just looking for that one thing that I've not seen here in the Treasure Valley that I can do, that I think is unique, that's cool, that's just going to be a selling or a wow factor for me. It's just a fun process.

                                                And then getting your subcontractors onboard too, and having them-

Thom Dallman:                  A little tricky.

Heather Echevarria:        ... see what I'm seeing in my head is difficult at times.

Dave Burnett:                    As they're going, "You want to do what?"

Heather Echevarria:        Yes. That's exactly what they say to me. "You want me to do what?"

Dave Burnett:                    Okay, now let me ask then. Okay, you're looking for something new and unique and innovative. And I realize that could be anywhere in the house, but typically, which room do you find those unique things in?

Heather Echevarria:        I would say kitchen. Your most common rooms that you're going to find those is going to be your kitchen, your great room and your master suite.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah.

Heather Echevarria:        Those are the areas that you focus on.

Dave Burnett:                    Are you going to spill the beans and tell us what yours is going to be this year?

Heather Echevarria:        Not yet. I'll be back in a couple of weeks and we'll spill the beans a little bit and give some hints as to it, but I will tell you that my house this year is extremely unique because we are on an infill lot.

Dave Burnett:                    What does that mean?

Heather Echevarria:        That means, we're not in an undeveloped subdivision. We actually tore a house down,-

Dave Burnett:                    Oh.

Heather Echevarria:        ... therefore, creating our buildable lot and are building on a view lot here in Boise.

Dave Burnett:                    So you're in an established subdivision?

Heather Echevarria:        I'm in a 60 year plus old neighborhood, yes.

Dave Burnett:                    Wow.

Thom Dallman:                  Yep.

Dave Burnett:                    That is different than-

Thom Dallman:                  It is super unique, yeah.

Heather Echevarria:        Yep.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah.

Heather Echevarria:        You know, I got to live up to my name: Innovative Custom Homes. I got to be innovative.

Dave Burnett:                    What is the dates? It's the end of April, is it not?

Heather Echevarria:        Yep. So we start Saturday, April 28th and we run for three weekends, all the way through Mother's Day on May 13th.

Dave Burnett:                    Okay. So people can make their plans now. With 40 homes, you got a month to do this?

Heather Echevarria:        Yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah, and get it all planned out.

Heather Echevarria:        Yeah, it's open seven days a week. Friday, Saturday, Sunday we're open noon until 8:00 pm. And Monday through Thursday, I think it's 5:00 to 8:00 pm.

Thom Dallman:                  5:00 to 8:00 pm, yep.

Dave Burnett:                    What are some of these new innovative things you think we're going to see? I'm not asking to spill the beans on it. Somebody else's. But some of the things you've seen in other shows, other towns you've gone to, what have you seen?

Heather Echevarria:        I think a lot has to do with technology and energy efficiency in the homes. So something that I strive for is to create a home that is meant to be lived in. You spend your time living in your home, not maintaining your home.

                                                So I think those are going to be some of the key things this year, is going to be energy efficiency, the cool gadgets, technology, what you can do with your home and also just stuff that is not going to require a lot of maintenance.

Dave Burnett:                    You know, it funny.

Thom Dallman:                  That's awesome.

Dave Burnett:                    One of the homes in my subdivision, where I drive through, they've got artificial grass in their backyard. It's neat and green all winter.

Thom Dallman:                  Really?

Dave Burnett:                    But I mean, from the street looking at it, you can't tell that it's not grass,-

Thom Dallman:                  Can't tell.

Dave Burnett:                    ... other than the fact it's really green right now.

Thom Dallman:                  Right?

Dave Burnett:                    And I keep thinking to myself, "Man oh man, would that be nice," instead I'm mowing that lawn, taking care of those-

Thom Dallman:                  Right?

Dave Burnett:                    It's just perfect.

Heather Echevarria:        Yeah, that would be. I'm not doing that, but ...

Thom Dallman:                  Next year. Maybe next year.

Dave Burnett:                    It's an idea though of making your home maintenance-free.

Heather Echevarria:        Yes.

Dave Burnett:                    Other ways we can do that on the inside, do you think?

Heather Echevarria:        Other ways. I think it's with the flooring choices that you pick, the floor plan itself, the type of lighting fixtures. I mean, floor to ceiling, you can pick a lot of things on the inside. And then on the outside, too, with what you finish it with, whether it be traditional siding or concrete board siding or stucco, just different things that way to make it more maintenance-free.

Dave Burnett:                    Having recently remodeled my kitchen, I am stunned. To me, the biggest difference for me is lighting and LED lights and the change that has made in the past 10 years.

Heather Echevarria:        Oh, LED lighting has come so far in the last little bit and continues. So lighting is probably one of my favorite things to shop for.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah.

Heather Echevarria:        And that's where I try to stand out a little bit more, too, just doing something that I haven't seen somewhere. And it's crazy where you find inspiration.

Thom Dallman:                  Oh my gosh, there's so many different things, lighting fixtures out there and stuff like that that you'd just be amazed,-

Heather Echevarria:        Oh yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  ... sometimes seeing what's out there.

Dave Burnett:                    And even to the point, there's under counter lighting that are strips that we can change it from red to green to-

Thom Dallman:                  To magenta.

Heather Echevarria:        Don't you love that?

Dave Burnett:                    I do.

Heather Echevarria:        I'm one of those people. I decorate for every holiday, so Saint Paddy's Day, my kitchen was green.

Thom Dallman:                  It was all green.

Dave Burnett:                    Yep. Valentine's Day, red.

Heather Echevarria:        Red. Yep.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah.

Heather Echevarria:        Easter. Right now it's pink. So I love it.

Thom Dallman:                  That's awesome.

Dave Burnett:                    So those are the kinds of things you're going to be able to see. What else are we looking at with the Parade of Homes this year?

Heather Echevarria:        Oh my gosh. You're going to see new developments. We've got lots of new developments coming in Boise, so you're going to see homes in those new developments. I think a lot of just ... I'm trying to think for floor plans.

Thom Dallman:                  Last year we saw more of a modern, almost a jiving New York feel to a bunch of the homes and stuff like that. Do you think we'll see some more of that this year?

Heather Echevarria:        I think we're past the farmhouse stuff.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah.

Heather Echevarria:        I think we'll still see some of that, but I think we're going to get more to sticking-

Thom Dallman:                  Modern.

Heather Echevarria:        ... with that modern, clean ... I call it a transitional. I don't want to go too modern and contemporary and feel cold.

Dave Burnett:                    Yeah. You could get high tech to the point you feel like it's a robot-run house.

Heather Echevarria:        You can

Thom Dallman:                  Right?

Heather Echevarria:        Yeah, you can. And I think the key is really getting it out there to where it appeals to the masses, not just fewer people.

Thom Dallman:                  Exactly.

Dave Burnett:                    Is one of the challenges with the Parade of Homes ... As the Treasure Valley expands, I mean, we all know there's not that many properties in Boise Proper, just because it's already built up. Is it expanding to where it's getting further out and a little difficult to keep it compact so that it's travelable?

Heather Echevarria:        We're Ada County, so it's all over right there. And I know the BCA for Southwest Idaho, is more than just Ada County.

Dave Burnett:                    Right.

Heather Echevarria:        I believe it's also up to McCall and some others. I don't know all the details on that, but we are expanding more and more outside of just Boise City.

Dave Burnett:                    Right.

Heather Echevarria:        Star, Eagle, Meridian. I think you're starting to see a lot more moving out the Meridian and the outskirts, what you would consider. And then I think we're going to start seeing a lot more infill lots; houses being torn down and properties being rebuilt on them, because I know that's where I like to focus.

Thom Dallman:                  Yep.

Dave Burnett:                    Heather's with us and talking about the Parade of Homes, which is coming up April 28th and then runs through Mother's Day, which you may think, "Eh, it's a long ways away." No it's not.

Thom Dallman:                  No, it's not. It's right around the corner.

Dave Burnett:                    Just ask Heather.

                                                And information where we can find out more about the Parade of Homes?

Heather Echevarria:        Information on the BCA website is BoiseParadeofHomes.com.

Dave Burnett:                    Okay. Just that simple. BoiseParadeofHomes.com. If it's not fully updated, obviously ... they haven't released all of the addresses, locations, that information will be updated as the days goes on.

Heather Echevarria:        Yeah.

Thom Dallman:                  Yeah. And as soon as the magazines come out, we'll let everybody know. We'll have them available here at CORE Group and at various locations too.

Dave Burnett:                    Heather, thank you so much for joining us. We'll talk to you again, coming up real soon.

                                                This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz. He is Thom Dallman, the co-owner, designated Broker of CORE Group Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com. We do it every week at this time. Find out why they say, "You get more with CORE."


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