We have a jam-packed show today! Get caught up on our most recent listings here at Core Group at eXp Realty! Ron Wieczorek from Eagle Home Mortgage is here to keep us informed on the happenings in the mortgage world. Thinking about upgrading your counter tops? Dave and Thom touch base on the different options that are out there. Plus, Dan Wydner is in the studio from Eagle Eye LLC to talk all things roofing!


Segment 1

Dave Burnett: This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz with Thom Dallman, the CEO of Core Group at eXp Realty. Not only the CEO, and I don't want to mess up the titles now, because there has been a structural change in there, but really no change to the service.

Thom Dallman: Exactly. I'm not the designated broker anymore, now I'm just an Associate Broker-

Dave Burnett: Associate Broker.

Thom Dallman: But still the Team Lead, the CEO, still manage my team, still make sure that they're treating our clients right, and are educated and filled with the knowledge that they need. If anything, this has allowed me to actually free up some time to be able to be there and to-

Dave Burnett: Nice.

Thom Dallman: Help my agents a lot more, and now to kind of jump into the business a little bit more and get back into representing our clients and stuff like that. So you'll hear me talking about my own listings here soon. You know. Some more stuff.

Dave Burnett: Well the good news is the phone number is the same. 208-933-7777. Anytime you have a question, you can call that number, or 24/7, you can always go to CoreGroupRealty.com, that is the website, and of course, you'll find at that point some of those new listings that you have out right now.

Thom Dallman: Yeah, yeah. We are technically having some technical difficulty because of the switch-over, so our featured listings are not currently showing up-

Dave Burnett: Okay.

Thom Dallman: So you might have to give us a call if you want to know which ones they are.

Dave Burnett: Okay. So if you hear something you are interested in today, get that phone call in.

Thom Dallman: Yeah. Get that phone call.

Dave Burnett: 208-933-7777.

Thom Dallman: Yes.

Dave Burnett: Get a jump on everyone.

Thom Dallman: Unfortunately, with the switch-over, there are a few glitches that we're working on.

Dave Burnett: Okay.

Thom Dallman: But for the most part, it's been pretty smooth, a smooth transition, so.

Dave Burnett: Well let's do that. Let's talk about some of the new listings, of course.

Thom Dallman: Yeah. We've got two coming on this week that we're really excited to share with everybody. Let me talk about the first one, which is kind of intriguing to me. It's a townhouse actually, at 5025 North Hollow Lane. This is actually in the Creek subdivision-

Dave Burnett: Oh, okay.

Thom Dallman: So that golf course, the Crane Creek-

Dave Burnett: Crane Creek.

Thom Dallman: Crane Creek Hollow golf course up there.

Dave Burnett: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Thom Dallman: Right there off the golf course. It's a four-bedroom, two and a half bath, two car garage in that tranquil setting. It's priced ... it's going to be at $490,000. It's got 2,387 square feet. Just an impeccably cared for home that is just perfect for entertaining, especially being off the golf course there. It has a fireplace, hardwood flooring, huge windows, oversized windows that bring in all the natural light in the house. So super great backyard with a private pond, so you have your own little water feature back there, and a covered patio and lush gardens, so.

Dave Burnett: And I'm going to assume since it's there at Crane Creek, it's got mature landscaping.

Thom Dallman: Yes.

Dave Burnett: Honestly, you can't say enough about mature landscaping.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: You're not having to worry about planting trees, and lawns, and sprinkler systems, and shrubs.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: You can take out or put in what you want.

Thom Dallman: Oh yeah. So nice to not have to worry about that, and just a few ... put in your own personal style to that yard if you want, but otherwise, you can just leave it alone and enjoy it.

Dave Burnett: In all honesty, I bought a house once, it was early winter, and it was a house that had mature landscaping in it. It was kind of fun the next spring to see what came up-

Thom Dallman: To see what sprouts up.

Dave Burnett: "Oh, look at that little hidden jewel."

Thom Dallman: Oh yeah.

Dave Burnett: So that's a lot of fun.

Thom Dallman: We're getting to that point right now where it's going to happen like that. People are going to start buying houses and be really surprised about what pops up.

Dave Burnett: So what's the address on that home again?

Thom Dallman: So that was 5025 North Hollow Lane in Boise. 83712, so it's just right up that Bogus Basin. Bogus Basing curling and up there, up on the hill.

Dave Burnett: If you're a skier, oh man.

Thom Dallman: Oh my gosh.

Dave Burnett: You're there. Here, just go around the corner and you're good to go.

Thom Dallman: Right. Yeah. And now we just did a trip up to Bogus Basin a couple weekends ago, and they've really done the roads really nicely up to there, so they've kind of revamped the roads and made it a little bit-

Dave Burnett: Can we take a little left turn here for a second?

Thom Dallman: Sure.

Dave Burnett: Is it not amazing all the construction up Bogus Basin Road?

Thom Dallman: Oh my gosh. So many homes going in.

Dave Burnett: Beautiful. I would have to assume multi-million dollar homes.

Thom Dallman: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'm curious to see what happens because just recently there was a fourteen acre parcel that sold up there, halfway up the hill, so I'm curious to see what they put in in that fourteen acres. You know, if they put in ... what they do with it. Because so much of it, as I was driving up there, I was like, "Gosh, so much of this is just that straight off cliff side." So it makes you wonder what they're going to do with it.

Dave Burnett: Yeah, we went up there about a month ago, and it was the first time I'd been up in two years. And it was just like, "Oh my goodness. Where did all these homes come from?"

Thom Dallman: Oh yeah.

Dave Burnett: But it is just amazing up there.

Thom Dallman: Well that's the testament to the growth in our valley and stuff.

Dave Burnett: Yeah. Exactly.

Thom Dallman: Interesting. And another little segue, interesting fact that I just heard this week on a little webinar that I was on. They're anticipating ... if I can get these numbers right, by 2025, we will be at 1.8 million, they're projecting 1.8 million, the population will be at 1.8 million here in the valley is what they're considering. We're at, I think they said 800,000 right now, so-

Dave Burnett: Yeah. 1.8 million?

Thom Dallman: Isn't that crazy?

Dave Burnett: Holy cow.

Thom Dallman: Yeah.

Dave Burnett: And I just saw-

Thom Dallman: The rate of growth that we're going at, I think is what they're basing that on.

Dave Burnett: I don't have the numbers, maybe you do. I just saw a report from Wallet Hub that shows that Boise is the 19th ranked real estate market in the nation.

Thom Dallman: Oh yeah.

Dave Burnett: Yeah.

Thom Dallman: I don't doubt it.

Dave Burnett: I'm telling you, that's pretty good.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: It was some little town in Texas that was number one.

Thom Dallman: Yeah.

Dave Burnett: But Boise is the 19th ranked.

Thom Dallman: They just talked about ... this was all a seminar about, is there a bubble coming, are we going to have a big crash and whatnot, but the economists, whatever that word is-

Dave Burnett: Economists.

Thom Dallman: Economists, are projecting that it might not hit Boise because of the fact that we are still one of the most affordable places. It's going to hit all these other big areas, yes, because they're being priced out, people can't afford to live there. And that's why we're seeing such an influx of people coming to Boise, because they can't afford these other big cities, so they're projecting that Idaho itself will not actually get hit if there is a bust of some sort. Yeah.

Dave Burnett: Okay, so brace yourself.

Thom Dallman: Yes.

Dave Burnett: Number two. If somebody's looking for a home, what's the number two listing?

Thom Dallman: Yeah, number two is 1100 West Newport Court in Meridian. This is a three-bed, two bath, and it is 1,264 square feet house. It has bamboo flooring throughout, it has a new roof, new paint. The HVAC has been recently replaced. All new kitchen with feathered granite, granite countertops-

Dave Burnett: Nice.

Thom Dallman: Actually has a solar panel system in it, a state of the art solar panel system, so their power bill is five dollars a month for the service fee.

Dave Burnett: Hang on. You said five dollars a month?

Thom Dallman: That's what I'm being quoted. And this is from my agent, so don't quote me on it, this is what my agent is telling me.

Dave Burnett: Got to love it, though. Solar powered.

Thom Dallman: Right? Exactly. So the purchase price for this is coming on at $246,900.

Dave Burnett: So it's under that $250,000 price point.

Thom Dallman: Exactly. Exactly. So pretty much all new house out there in Meridian. So 1100 West Newport. Great option for you if you're looking for that three-bedroom, two bath. That's pretty much the medium price point. It's at $280,000 right now, so it's below the medium price point, so a great option for that first time home buyer, for pretty much anybody that can live in a 1,264 square foot house.

Dave Burnett: Got to like that.

Thom Dallman: Yeah, exactly.

Dave Burnett: Meridian is so nice and growing. Tammy De Weerd, the mayor there, has done such a good job with that city and the growth and the expansion they've had.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: And it continues to be just the dead center of the treasure valley now.

Thom Dallman: Yeah, the BCA just released a memo from them, from the Meridian building and zoning just saying, "We're working on getting employees in here to help with building permits." They had a little bit of a slow down because there were so many permits being asked for and stuff, but they're continuing to try to strive for better service and better ability to process permits and get new buildings going, so it's ... Yeah, we're going to continue to see that growth happening out there in Meridian because that's where it's at right now.

Dave Burnett: Address one more time, for that Meridian one.

Thom Dallman: The address for that one was 1100 West Newport Court in Meridian.

Dave Burnett: All right. So you had two listings this week.

Thom Dallman: Two new listings, yeah.

Dave Burnett: And just a reminder, as Thom mentioned, just one of the changes coming is not all the website is quite updated-

Thom Dallman: Correct.

Dave Burnett: So the featured listings isn't there. If you're interested in either one of those, the one there at Crane Creek or the one in Meridian, give a call. 208-933-7777. That is the number to call at Core Group Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com is the website, and just excited to bring you what's happening in the treasure valley, because-

Thom Dallman: It's a lot.

Dave Burnett: I say this as an outsider. We've done this show together now for a couple of years. It is exciting ... some people are grumpy, going, "We don't want to grow. Put up a fence. We don't want to grow."

Thom Dallman: "Send them somewhere else."

Dave Burnett: But when I see what is happening around the treasure valley, it's just amazing to me. Some of the new subdivisions going in, some of the new ideas on some of these subdivisions going in.

Thom Dallman: Oh my gosh. Oh yeah.

Dave Burnett: The way they're doing the-

Thom Dallman: Paving the roads and stuff like that. I love new construction because I love seeing the new products that even come out. Technology is changing to quickly these days that it's amazing to see some of the new things that they're putting into homes as far as technology and things that keep you safe and just all that stuff. So it's exciting to me.

Dave Burnett: I saw for the first time here in the valley, and I know they exist, but for the first time, I was driving up the back way to my subdivision because Highway 55 was all plugged up with cars, so I drove the back way up, and I saw this immaculate lawn, I thought, "Holy cow." And then I realized as I slowed down, it was all artificial grass.

Thom Dallman: It's artificial. Yeah. I actually just closed a couple weeks ago on a build job out in Harris Ranch where they had put in some turf because they have a dog. It wasn't a very big yard, but they had put in some artificial turf ... I was shocked. I was shocked-

Dave Burnett: It looks like grass.

Thom Dallman: It looks so real. And it felt real. I walked on it, and I was like, "Wow. This is amazing how real this artificial stuff is." Its come a long way.

Dave Burnett: Lots of changes. This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz being brought to you by Core Group at eXp Realty and Eagle Home Mortgage. Give a call today, 208-933-7777. Find out why they say, "You get more with Core."

Segment 2

Dave Burnett: This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz. He is Thom Dallman with Core Group at EXP Realty, and of course, every week we get a chance to talk to Ron Wieczorek at Eagle Home Mortgage. Ron, now we've started with random thoughts with Ron last week, but we didn't even scratch the surface.

Ron Wieczorek: Yeah, I've got a lot of notes here of things we touched upon and it's just kind of random notes, news and notes. I don't know how to really say it, but there's a lot of mortgage articles I read, and I just kind of wanted to share some information instead of just talking how you apply and things like that. Just more relative to everyday life news.

Dave Burnett: Well, to me, it's a complicated industry you're involved with because you have not only dealing with the customers, dealing with the real estate agents; and then dealing with the government. You throw that all together, there's a lot of stuff to remember.

Ron Wieczorek: There's a lot of stuff to remember. Luckily, I love what I do, so it makes that piece easier. I've been in this 17 years and we've been through a lot in 17 year of the ever-changing industry and that's why I always stress to give me a call. Even in Thom's position, just when you think you know something on my end, he gives me a call and he says-

Dave Burnett: What about this?

Ron Wieczorek: What about this? And I'm like, no, it's different now. So you to always have to keep your ... have a good resource for that, and that's what I feel that, not only I do, but our whole company has just such a wealth of people behind us that support us in that nature; so it's comforting for me every day to know that I can lean on other people too.

Dave Burnett: But, that's kind of where the random thoughts come from for both of you guys. You spend a lot of time surfing the net, and looking at different websites and finding out different information.

Thom Dallman: Oh, yeah, yeah. It's part of the industry. You always have to kind of stay on top of things and the only way to do that is really, just like everybody else, start with the internet. Go out there and Google that stuff.

Dave Burnett: I guess we'd have big stacks of paper on our desks if it weren't for the internet.

Thom Dallman: Yeah.

Dave Burnett: What do you want tackle here?

Ron Wieczorek: Well, last week we kind of left off with the, 'first time home buyers dilemma' and what we're seeing in that regards and how can they buy a house. If we talked about, in weeks past, that we have baby boomers that are healthier and they're not selling their home. We have the fact that construction isn't happening fast enough. It's happening at a good rate, but it's also not happening for, you're talking about entry-level houses. And nobody wants to just build community after community of entry-level houses. So how do we get past that? What's going on with the inventory for our first time home buyers that are really diving into the market? Because right now we have what I call, 'hesitant sellers', and I talk about these pull backs. The hesitant sellers see that the rates are going up, they see that they get this idea that, "I want to buy a new home," and then they kind of fall back in love with their home sometimes. They're like, "You know what-"

Thom Dallman: I've had it happen quite frequently.

Ron Wieczorek: "after doing all this research and seeing what's out there and seeing what I'd have to pay, I'd have to give up my mortgage, it's in the twos or threes, to get something that might be in the fours or fives. I no longer am in love with this idea that I was before, but it's good that I looked."

And I always encourage everyone to look, just to make sure it is the right decision. It's not happening with everybody, but there is still a lot of this, 'hesitant sellers' going on. So it is clogging up that first time home buyer that really, really wants to enter the market. And a couple things are going on in that regards behind the scenes. We talk about, why aren't they building more? Can they not keep up? Can they not get permit? And it's a little of both.

We've all heard the expression 'NMBY,' not my backyard. And that's what's happening in a lot of neighborhoods, not only in the valley but nationwide, is a lot of people are saying, "Yeah, let's build more, let's get more, let's free up some of that inventory. But don't do it right here." And a lot of that is fear-driven. And when I say it's fear-driven, it's because we went through a lot. I mentioned 17 years in the business. We've went through a lot in 17 years plus, and we've seen it at its best, what we thought was its best; but it was a house of cards. And then we've seen it crash. We've seen it at its worst.

So, folks are remembering what happened to them in 2008 and 2009 and saying, "I don't want that again. I don't want it in my backyard. I don't want these houses to be built in my backyard that are just entry-level."

Dave Burnett: But we've talked about this a number of times in the shows. As they've rebuilt over the past four or five years, it's been done at a more solid ground.

Ron Wieczorek: Absolutely. There's a lot more credit worthy clients. People that should buy, you know, we have a saying that not everyone should buy a house. And I welcome everyone to entertain the idea to see if it is the right time. I never say no, I say "not now," because there's a lot of instances where maybe you need another year on the job, maybe you want to see how your family grows. There's a lot of just outside factors. We have that on even the most stable people can get fired the next day. So there's those unknowns.

So if you're already in a gray area where like, "I don't even know if I can swing this," you probably can't. So that's where we sit down and talk about, what does that timeline look like? What does it look like for you in that instance? So that's always a great conversation to have. But you're right, it is built off a more solid foundation now, and I think that you can't tell everybody not to worry after they've been through what they consider a traumatic event; so that fear still lies. It's legitimate to ... if you have a neighborhood that's established, maybe the homes are of greater value to have in your backyard just entry-level homes. That's a hard sale. Nobody really wants always surrounding them if they are in that type of positions. There's a lot of politics that go in the background, and part of that is construction.

There's a labor shortage right now. We talk about unemployment, and I plan to get into ... and I probably won't have time to talk about The Feds going to raise the rates again at least two more times is the plan this year. And that's because income growth has been strong, jobs wages have been strong; and inflation has stayed at 2%, and that's kind of the target rate that they have for inflation, at 2%. So that gives The Fed the ammunition, they are like, "This is the right move, we have to do this to keep us at that level. If we don't do that, inflation goes up, maybe those wages don't mean as much. So we have to kind of put controls in place."

So then my point on the unemployment figures are down, but if you want people building houses, you have to have, strong labor. That is trained to do these jobs, and to build houses right, and there is a shortage of that right now in the United States, and the valley.

Dave Burnett: And part is being, correct me if I'm wrong because of several disasters, the floods, and Houston hurricane, the fires in California; if somebody can go down and do tile work in thirteen hundred houses in California.

Thom Dallman: And make more money.

Ron Wieczorek: There's a lot to be said for that, and I think you just can't train fast enough right now, because there's a lot of employers that are ... if I'm going to bring on an employee at an hourly craft wage, I want them to be trained properly A; and I want to know that I can keep them. You don't want to put families in a situation where they start to depending on this income, and all the sudden, it goes away. So everybody should think of that when they're hiring is, "Can I keep this person on? Is this a long-term hire?" Cause I don't a ... three, four months down the road say, "You know what thank you, but we can't have you anymore," cause that's affecting real people, real families; and we live and breathe in this community.

So your point on the fires, I read an article yesterday, there's thirteen thousand ... see you're looking at the clock, I think we're running out of time.

Dave Burnett: We're still good.

Ron Wieczorek: Thirteen thousand California homes are in danger of the wildfires right now.

Dave Burnett: Wow.

Thom Dallman: That's crazy.

Ron Wieczorek: That's a huge number, thirteen thousand. Two thousand are in immediate danger, they've already ... six hundred and thirty thousand acres have been burned up in California, and fourteen homes have already been destroyed, another two hundred have been significantly damaged.

Thom Dallman: That's insane.

Dave Burnett: And these are, for the most part, custom homes?

Ron Wieczorek: Yes.

Thom Dallman: Oh yeah.

Ron Wieczorek: In that area where the fire's getting to is not in the suburbs right? It's more second homeland, so that's where a lot of this devastation is happening.

So to your point, that is attracting a lot of labor, now that ... they might not recover for ... we don't know, it's not done yet; but that's years. Once it leaves our news cycle, we have a tendency to forget about it. We're still talking about, in our industry, hurricanes in Louisiana in September of last ... just a year ago. But it's been out of my mind for so long until ... I was like, "Oh yeah, that still can cause mortgage delinquencies." That can still cause folks to be ... just lives are upside down.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: Before we do run out of time, you mentioned during the break about Facebook, and a Facebook issue with your industry. Tell me about that.

Ron Wieczorek: So Facebook has been ... it's great to get information from and they follow us, and I won't get into all the security details of everything they know about you, it's no secret that you're looking for a thermometer for your son on day; and then all of a sudden every article you see the next day, every ad is for a thermometer. So that's scary in itself; but they can pick and choose who they advertise to, or who they market to you, buying ads can say, "Don't say to this, don't show to that." Well that's a serious issue in our industry. Imagine if Thom put up a sign and said, "I have this house but I don't want anyone of a certain gender, I don't want anyone of a certain race, I don't want anyone of a certain disability; but everyone else is fine, or I don't want single moms."

Dave Burnett: You can't do that.

Ron Wieczorek: He'll get a knock on his door that day. But when you put it out on Facebook you can click these buttons so they were seeing that certain demographics were only seen in certain ads; and that's a fair housing ... big time violation. So I know that they're talking steps to correct it, but it kind of opens your mind to what else is going-

Dave Burnett: Just be careful.

Ron Wieczorek: Just be careful.

Dave Burnett: Ron if somebody wants to get ahold of you at Eagle Home Mortgage, by the way, Equal Housing Lender, how do they do that?

Ron Wieczorek: My cellphone is always on me. My number is 208-869-9154.

Dave Burnett: Very good, it is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz, Eagle Home Mortgage one of the sponsors, as well as, Core Group at eXp Realty, why don't you do this? Call 208-933-7777, or go to CoreGroupRealty.com, find out why they say, "You get more, with Core."

Segment 3

Dave Burnett: This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz with Thom Dallman. He, of course, the, I guess it's CEO now of ...

Thom Dallman: CEO, yes.

Dave Burnett: ... of Core Group Realty.

Thom Dallman: I'm still the associate broker, so no longer the designated broker.

Dave Burnett: A little bit of change in just the name, but inner structure works on that, but still the same great service, great people.

Thom Dallman: Yup.

Dave Burnett: ... great providers and, of course, CoreGroupRealty.com is the same website.

Thom Dallman: Same website. You can still go there and see all the information, get all the downloads of this radio show as well as our list of service providers ...

Dave Burnett: Perfect.

Thom Dallman: ... which we're excited to have one of our newest ones here today with us.

Dave Burnett: That would be Dan Wydner. Wydner or Wydner?

Dan Wydner: It's Wydner.

Dave Burnett: I know. You just told me and I forgot.

Dan Wydner: That's okay. Thank you.

Dave Burnett: With Eagle Eye LLC. Now you might think, Eagle Eye, what is that?

Dan Wydner: Right?

Dave Burnett: Well, you do more than roofing, but primarily, you do roofing?

Dan Wydner: Yes. Primarily we do ... we specialize in roofing, which is why everything is under roofing idea.

Dave Burnett: But you do some other things as well?

Dan Wydner: We do. We also do siding and windows. Basically, it correlates with ... once we get out to a home and they get a contractor there, it's pretty hard to just do one thing, because they typically have a large list. Yeah.

Dave Burnett: Let me explain you here on the Idaho Real Estate Buzz that one of the reasons that Thom likes to do this ... to talk to providers is that it is difficult when you go, "Oh, man. We need a new roof. Gosh, that's gotta be like $300?" No, it is an expensive project. But to look in the phone book or the website. You just don't know, so this gives a chance to get to know you a little bit, and just for people to feel a little more comfortable about what they're doing.

Dan Wydner: Absolutely. A lot of what we like to do is work with real estate agencies because they already have a rapport with the homeowner. After they know what our work looks like, it's a lot easier for them to make a recommendation of us to the next person that they're attempting to help out.

Dave Burnett: Right.

Dan Wydner: Yeah.

Dave Burnett: I guess on of the things we should talk about is I had my roof redone two years ago? I think it was two years ago now I had it redone, and I was stunned. I'm gonna be honest with you, I was stunned as they came up with, "That'll be a $10,000 bill." Now, the good news is it was hail damage, so insurance was able to take care of that. But to get it done properly, it's not necessarily an inexpensive proposition, so you want to make sure it's done right.

Dan Wydner: Absolutely. And it's funny that you say the insurance thing. A lot of what we do is inspections. When we get up on a roof, we don't necessarily want to tell a homeowner the bad news of, "Hey, you need a new roof." It's a lot about educating the homeowner if there's damage, what type of damage, what their options are as far as if it needs to be financed. Maybe it is an insurance deal, maybe it's just an out of pocket thing.

Dan Wydner: A lot of what we do is just the inspecting and educating homeowners so that they can decide for themselves on what the next step is.

Dave Burnett: What is the average like of a roof right now in the Treasure Valley?

Dan Wydner: It should be between 25 and 35 years.

Dave Burnett: Should be?

Dan Wydner: Should be. It also has a lot to do with the type of shingle. This is where the education portion would come in on what your best option ... medium-grade option ... and least favorite for us, construction-grade option.

Dave Burnett: Let me ask this ... is it a matter of buying a wheelbarrow? You get what you pay for?

Dan Wydner: It's ...

Dave Burnett: If you buy cheap shingles, you're gonna get ...

Dan Wydner: You're gonna get ... a lot less of a lifespan. Absolutely. We see it every day, you have the granulars falling off in your drive, you've got pieces of shingles ... you only get one winds storm, you know, things like that.

Thom Dallman: One crazy winter like we had a couple of winters ago?

Dan Wydner: Yeah, and then we're up there cleaning snow off of people's roofs and taking care of ice stamps for the whole year. Yeah.

Thom Dallman: Which can happen, winter's not far off.

Dan Wydner: Right.

Dave Burnett: Let me ask you this question ... are there things that, for me as homeowner, I can look for to see that there's a problem with my roof going on?

Dan Wydner: Absolutely.

Dave Burnett: Other than missing shingles, that's an obvious one.

Dan Wydner: Right. Yeah, if your shingles are ... they might not necessarily be missing, they might just be blown over. That'd be one indication. If you're getting a lot of granulars on the ground below your gutters, we probably wanna get it inspected before the winter time. Typically, those are gonna be your telltale signs from a distance. Obviously, if you have a leak, we know to get up there and take care of something.

Dave Burnett: That'll be obviously pretty quickly.

Dan Wydner: And then it's always good to have it inspected, just because a lot of people in the valley have their venting ... if it's not properly done, it could cause extreme electric bills for people, and they just don't know that. As long as it has proper ventilation, you shouldn't have any problem with your roof throughout the winter, so ...

Thom Dallman: Okay, cool. I was gonna say, how often would you recommend people have it inspected, or have someone come up there looking at it?

Dan Wydner: I would probably say at least once every two years.

Thom Dallman: Once every two years? That's usually what I tell people. Great.

Dan Wydner: Yeah. What happens is when contractors build it, they'll use materials like plastic vents. Things like that tend to crack from thermal heat ...

Dave Burnett: Just from heating.

Dan Wydner: Right, and so that's a lot of times where you'll get some leaks from. I do a lot of repairs for people who just have minor things wrong with a roof. I'll tell you, if you don't need a new roof, I'll give you a timeline on how long it's gonna take before you should need one, given the best standards.

Dave Burnett: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Excellent. That's how we found out with our house is suddenly I looked up in the guest bathroom, and there was water on the ceiling, and it's like, "What in the world?" It turned out on the vent with the little rubber grommet ... I don't know what they're called ...

Dan Wydner: The pipe jacks?

Dave Burnett: Yeah. It had just shrunk away to where water was just running down the pipe and on to the ceiling.

Dan Wydner: It happens. It's really common, yeah.

Dave Burnett: So after I called a roofer, he came out and went, "Well, you've got a lot of damage to this roof. Hail storms came through here about three weeks ago." So, that's the end of that story. It is an expensive proposition. What can you look for to see ... if I have a home and I'm getting ready to sell and to look at it, how do I know if I have a bad roofing job?

Dan Wydner: The only real way to find out is to have one of us come out and take a look at it. When I get on the roof, I take pictures of everything. If there's a bad installation or there's things that might need to be changed, that's probably something you want to get ahead of before you have it inspected by a buyer, so that you know before ...

Thom Dallman: You're not surprised.

Dan Wydner: There's no surprises, yeah. Obviously, the value ... if it's something that we can help you out with, it may drive the value, just a little bit.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: Dan is with Eagle Eye, LLC. They do roofing, they also do siding ... they do a number of things. Thom, how often is it, as you go out and your folks go out with Core Group Realty, that ... let's take a ten year-old home, fifteen year-old home ... is it very often they have to have roofing work done?

Thom Dallman: I would probably say one out of every ten, maybe two out of every ten homes have some kind of roof issue.

Dave Burnett: Not necessarily a whole new roof?

Thom Dallman: Not necessarily a whole new roof. It's usually patchwork or maybe they're just leaking one spot or a lot of times it's just the flashings have kind of done undone and stuff like that. Little things like that that can be a little ... money that comes out of your pocket, but at the end of the day, it just gives the buyer that piece of mind that stuff's fixed and hopefully the roof will last up to five years.

Dave Burnett: When they get the inspection done, when the lender does that inspection ... if it needs to be done, it needs to be done.

Thom Dallman: Exactly. There's those loan types, FHA and VA in particular, that require those roofs to have certain longevity on them. So, they have able to survive I think it's three years ... two or three years, so that's definitely something that comes into account when appraisers are out there looking at those roofs.

Dave Burnett: Now Dan, I assume as you go in and you talk to people and you do estimated, you also are aware of the homeowners associations and ... it's amazing, I was looking just at the roofing paragraphs in my homeowners association when we redid this ... there's a lot to it!

Dan Wydner: Absolutely there is. Basically, we work with a lot of the HOAs here in the Valley. We'll contact ones outside of the Valley also, if we need to ... just to make sure that we're within their regulations, so that the homeowner doesn't have to worry about things like that. We like to give them a cover variation based off of their HOA's approved list ...

Dave Burnett: "You may have black, or black ... or very dark gray."

Dan Wydner: Right. So ... some of them are pretty particular. The good thing about HOAs, though, is that they do require a little bit heavier of shingle, which gives you a little bit longer of a lifespan. The downfall is typically it's gonna be a little bit more ...

Dave Burnett: A little bit more expensive? Dan with Eagle Eye, LLC. Let me ask you this. When it comes to different types of shingles ... because I know that there's some that are just the straight, very traditional and squared-off, there's some that are kind of ... they look layered, they look angled. How many different variations are there now on shingles?

Dan Wydner: Really, you have about three different kind. The three tab, which is gonna be your real flat ones ...

Dave Burnett: The traditional shingle.

Dan Wydner: The traditional, which is kind of phasing out, because they're going with the heavier on which is the architectural, which is what you see the majority of now. That gives you that depth, different colors on the same shingle ... they're twice as thick, obviously, they should last twice as long.

Dave Burnett: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Dan Wydner: The third one would be what they call a "presidential-style" shingle, which is a lot thicker. It's a tri-lamb, so there's a lot of benefits. It lasts ...

Dave Burnett: Lasts long-term?

Dan Wydner: A lot longer.

Dave Burnett: That's what I had put on my house, and it should outlast me ...

Dan Wydner: It will.

Dave Burnett: Thanks for the encouraging words.

Dan Wydner: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: Well, Dan is with Eagle Eye, LLC. You can contact him ... as far as estimates or inspections, what does that cost on that?

Dan Wydner: As far as estimates, we don't charge anything. If we come out, we can do an inspection. It's free.

Dave Burnett: Okay.

Dan Wydner: If we do stuff for a real estate agent, if a CERT or something like that, we do charge for that. But your typical homeowner isn't gonna pay anything out of pocket.

Dave Burnett: Excellent. Of course ... is there a link on the website yet, do we know?

Thom Dallman: I do believe we should have it up and running. Yep.

Dave Burnett: Okay, at CoreGroupRealty.com. Dan, thank you so much, we do appreciate it. This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz, being brought to you by Eagle Home Mortgage, and Core Group at eXp Realty. Give them a call today, (208)933-7777. Find out why they say, "You get more with Core!"

Segment 4

Dave Burnett: This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz, brought to you Core Group at eXp Realty. Thom Dallman, who is the CEO, and also one of the associate brokers there at Core Group at eXp Realty. CoreGroupRealty.com, that's the website as always, 208-933-7777 is the phone number to go to. You mentioned in an earlier segment about one of the homes you have listed in Meridian, and it's got all new granite countertops in there.

Thom Dallman: Oh, yes. The much coveted granite countertops.

Dave Burnett: Is granite, is that-

Thom Dallman: I don't ... You know what? Actually-

Dave Burnett: The countertop of choice now?

Thom Dallman: It is. It's still mostly the countertop that everybody just loves and stuff. It's interesting to note that during spring parades you see a lot more of the ... it's not Corian, but it's kind of that Corian materials, the fabricated-

Dave Burnett: The man-made-

Thom Dallman: Stuff. Yeah, man-made materials.

Dave Burnett: I think Corian is a brand name.

Thom Dallman: Yeah, but it's kind of that same concept. Some of that stuff's really starting to get super popular for its durability, but granite is still number one on the charts for desirability and functionality and all that fun stuff for it. Yeah, granite's the bomb.

Dave Burnett: It's the top of choice.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: Let's list some of these. You have granite?

Thom Dallman: Yep.

Dave Burnett: You have quartz.

Thom Dallman: Quartz, yeah.

Dave Burnett: You have like a Corian man-made product.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: You have butcher block.

Thom Dallman: Yep.

Dave Burnett: You have some stainless steel that's out there.

Thom Dallman: Yeah, I have a stainless steel countertop in my house ,and I love it.

Dave Burnett: And Formica

Thom Dallman: And Formica.

Dave Burnett: Which is kind of-

Thom Dallman: Kind of a vinyl.

Dave Burnett: ... old school, which everybody at one point had Formica

Thom Dallman: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Dave Burnett: That kind of runs the gamut of countertops.

Thom Dallman: The only thing that we didn't say was marble, but that falls into quartz, kind of rock.

Dave Burnett: Yeah, quartz and marble, and those, a little bit easier to maintain than granite. Granite has to be sealed on a regular basis.

Thom Dallman: Yep, you're supposed to seal it preferably once a year. You're supposed to put a little sealant on it and stuff.

Dave Burnett: Which isn't a big deal.

Thom Dallman: Yeah, exactly.

Dave Burnett: Not hard to do, but-

Thom Dallman: And there's some pros and cons to granite. Obviously the looks of it and the variety of granites out there are amazing. You can get some really amazing looking granites that there's some that look like you're out in space in galaxy, stars, and stuff like that. And there's some more subdued ones that are more plain. But I love the variety of options that you have with granite, and that's one of the biggest pros about using granite is you can definitely pick from a wide array, going from expensive to more inexpensive as well. And you have the options to cut them into tiles, if you want, and do granite countertops that are still tiled. That creates a whole new different kind of look for a property as well. Yeah, I love the flexibility of granite, too, and the fact that it's a little bit more durable than just the vinyl, the laminate tops, and the fact that you can still somewhat abuse it a little bit, but not too much.

Dave Burnett: Well, in full disclosure, we recently redid, when I say recently, in the past year or so, we redid our kitchen, and we decided on granite countertops. So we put in, it's kind of a gray-silver, almost look like a metal flake sort of top, which we really liked. And the maintenance on it is very easy just to keep clean, just wipe it down. And just, we have a spray we put on to polish it and give it that shine. And it looks as good today as the day we put it in.

Thom Dallman: Exactly. You're supposed to be super careful about not getting acidic stuff on your granite countertops, because that can kind of seep into the pores and kind of erode it a little bit. There's that thing that you have to be conscious of when you're ... Don't use ammonias to clean it and stuff like that. Yeah, being super careful, but in the long run, it's, like you said, just easy to keep maintained, easy to keep.

Dave Burnett: It is. And I guess it's ... You may be saying, "What do mean, not to use that?" It is porous, and that's the reason you seal it. If you have a microscope on it, there's little, tiny holes in it, which stuff can get into. So, that's the reason you seal that.

Dave Burnett: But, another one is quartz, which I don't believe, check with your manufacturer, but I don't believe you have to seal quartz, because I don't think there's the holes in it that granite has.

Thom Dallman: I believe you are correct.

Dave Burnett: Yeah, so that makes it ... But again, quartz is another kind of expensive countertop to have.

Thom Dallman: Yeah. Yeah, once again, beautiful. A beautiful product, naturally made ... Excuse me. But another great option for countertops to give it that elegant look to upgrade a home if you're in the market to do that and give your kitchen a little bit more of an elegant feel, for sure. Both products obviously are heavier products, so you've got to make sure that you have the right cabinets to support it and have all that support stuff. There's little bit more, too, if you have overhangs for seating and whatnot, that you have it supported correctly and stuff like that. There's a little bit more support that goes in.

Dave Burnett: Would you say that probably putting in a material like a granite in is one of the major things that can help improve the looks cosmetically?

Thom Dallman: Yes. It's a very, like we said, desirable material right now for kitchen stuff. When people hear granite countertops, they're like "Oo". I've had lots of buyers over the last couple of years that that's all they wanted. They'd go into a kitchen, see laminate countertops, and be like, "Eh, no thanks. It's gonna cost too much to get granite in here." They were specific about wanting a house with the granite in it. It's still maintaining its popularity in the public's eye out there. If you have two houses, people will pay a little bit more for that extra nice touch of the granite countertops in the house for sure.

Dave Burnett: If you're trying to sell, cosmetically it might be worth it with the little extra expense to put granite in just for the salability.

Thom Dallman: Yeah. I would encourage basically to talk to a real estate agent, talk to myself, talk to one of my team, and let's do the math. Let's get a bid in to see how much it would cost for that, and then let's do some comparatives to other houses in the neighborhood to make sure that it's worthwhile, that you're gonna get your money back out of it or maybe even a little bit more and stuff. I usually tell people if you're gonna do granite, you know you're gonna live there for a couple more years, then do it because that way you'll still get the use out of it and then sell it, and it'll still be as desirable then. It really depends on A, your neighborhood, what other houses are selling for in the neighborhood, what the look like. If you're the only one in the neighborhood that has granite-

Dave Burnett: And it's a $100,000 home.

Thom Dallman: Yep. Exactly.

Dave Burnett: investment unless you're enjoying it yourself.

Thom Dallman: Exactly. There's that price point analysis that we have to do to determine to make sure that it is the right choice to go with that or whether to just do a laminate or something a little bit less expensive.

Dave Burnett: You mentioned earlier and I want to touch on this again, when it comes to picking out a granite top, that is a nice thing. You can go to one of the places. They have these big slabs of granite. On some of it there is a real variance even in the slab. But you can go "You know what, here's the shape of my countertop, and I would like it to be in this area where there's the shape of a cow or something." You can do that. You think I'm kidding. I've seen granite that has that kind of shape in it.

Thom Dallman: There's a certain art to laying out and figuring out where your swirls and the heavier veins and stuff like that in the granite are gonna be. There's this real good art to that and laying out your countertops to make sure that you accent them the best way possible, making sure that that swirl, that cow shape isn't where the sink is gonna go and be cut out and so forth.

Dave Burnett: But you might want to keep the cow in the design if wants that thing in there.

Thom Dallman: There's a real fine art to that, and a great granite place will be able to help guide you through that and make sure that you're picking the right type of counter for your cabinets, whatever color scheme you're going for in your kitchen and stuff. Obviously you want it to match that and not stand out or be opposite to what you're trying to do and stuff. There is a fine art to coordinating all of that together.

Thom Dallman: And then also just one of the other things that we always talk about is the seams, where you're gonna put your seams, because inevitably you're gonna have to have a seam of some sort, unless you have a really small countertop, which is okay. But inevitably you're gonna have a seam. A lot of granite places will want to put those seams where the stove is or where the sink is to minimalize the ... I cannot talk today. To make that seam appear less and not as obviously to people and stuff. That's all part of that whole coordination and determining if you have the right cabinets to hold up the granite, what kind of support you'll need, and all that stuff.

Dave Burnett: And again, if you're thinking about it, wanting to do it, you can call Core Group Realty, 208-933-7777. Ask an agent to come out and take a look at your place and see is it worth me to invest this to make it worth more if I put it on the marketplace. At Core Group at eXp Realty, you guys are always open to counseling and talking to people.

Thom Dallman: Oh, yeah, yeah. It's free consultations. We don't force anybody to sign any paperwork. We're here to help the public to just get educated to know what's out there, what's happening and stuff like that. We love helping everybody get educated. That's the purpose of this show.

Dave Burnett: It is. And one of the nice parts at CoreGroupRealty.com, we have past shows, you have blogs on there. Probably if you sift through it you'll find something on blogs on countertops and what you'd want to do there as well. The website is a valuable tool.

Thom Dallman: Yep, very valuable. It's got lots of information. After doing this for 10 years, we've got a lot of information out there. A lot of education, a lot of tools and stuff like that.

Dave Burnet:: As we started this segment talking, it's fun to watch the trends, see what's happening. Granite is one of the trends that you will find very popular, very in demand right now.

Dave Burnett: This is the Idaho Real Estate Buzz. We get together and do this each and every week. We thank you for stopping by. Tell your friends if you have somebody who's looking to sell a home or to buy a home. Tell a friend to listen in, to check out the podcasts on the website, and of course as always too, contact the folks at Core Group at eXp Realty. Whether you contact Thom himself or one of the agents, they're there to help you get that home bought or sold.

Thom Dallman: Exactly.

Dave Burnett: Core Group at eXp Realty is the name of the company, the sponsor of the show along with Eagle Home Mortgage. 208-933-7777, that is the phone number to call. Find out why they say you get more with Core.


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Eagle Eye LLC

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Ron Wieczorek

Eagle Home Mortgage

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